UFOIC HISTORY & FORMATION


Out from the ashes of Mr Jarrold's NSW group one new state group emerged. The most prominent and first to re-build was under the Directorship of Fred Stone. Stone forms the Australian Flying Saucer Research Society (AFSRS) based in Adelaide, South Australia on Feb 1955.

Stone also sees a chance to become the governing body of all Australian Ufology. He asks Aeronautics & Phenomena Research Victoria (APRV) to come under his plan and they reject the concept. However, APRV agree to extend the same relationship they extended to Jarrold’s group with John. M. Anderson as their contact.

IMAGE REF: http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ShowImage.asp?B=1948052&S=42&T=P National Archives of Australia: A705/1, 114/1/197, digital image p42

This arrangement was agreed to and APRV supplied a list of contacts for Stone on possible branch organisers. Fred Stone's plan, was to form three new state groups (Victoria, NSW, Queensland) under his control. With a new members list, Stone set his plan into motion.

OLD GROUPS

1955 - SA - Australian Flying Saucer Research Society (AFSRS)

1956 - VIC - Aeronautics & Phenomena Research Victoria (APRV)

changed their structure and name to Phenomena Research Victoria (PRV)

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THREE NEW GROUPS

1956 - VIC - Australian Flying Saucer Research Society (Victorian Branch) (AFSRS Vic)

1957 - QLD - Queensland Flying Saucer Research Bureau (QFSRB)

1957 - NSW - Australian Flying Saucer Research Society (NSW Branch) (AFSRS NSW)

Although each new groups developed due to individuals within these groups, in the end Fred Stone had little input into the other two state groups structure. His concept worked at first but soon ran into administration problems due to distance between states and distant lines of communication.

The majority of these new state groups did not accept Fred Stone’s 1955 plan, those who accepted it only lasted one year before they decided to operate under their own administration.

So in 1957 the Australian Flying Saucer Research Society (NSW Branch) (AFSRS NSW) was forms.

Again this branch follows Victoria's lead and decided to become independent from Fred Stone South Australia group AFSRS.


UFOIC IS BORN

The NSW membership decided to again change their structure and name and thus became the UFO Investigation Centre (UFOIC) under Dr. W.P. Clifford 1957 and from 1958 and into the mid 60s under Dr. Miran Lindtner.

INDEPENDENT GROUPS

1956 - QLD - Queensland Flying Saucer Research Bureau (QFSRB)

1957 - VIC - Victorian Flying Saucer Research Society" (VFSRS)

1958 - NSW - UFO Investigation Centre (UFOIC)

1957

Gordon Deller , Andrew Tomas , Fred Phillips, Dr. Miran Lindtner

(c) People Magazine 1957

PROBLEMS WITH UFOIC

For years there was a general underground friction or competitiveness between groups, focused primary on Victorian groups, but extensively coming from Australian Flying Saucer Research Society (AFSRS) in South Australia and UFOIC.

The general causes were numerous, but the primary motivation was around power or leadership.

A good example of the problem can be seen in these two news item.

1. Lawyer Peter Norris LL.B, was a very active and methodical spokesman. Norris and his group VFSRS pressed the need for Government research and created many of the opportunities with various Government bodies. Add the fact; all reports came to Victorian Government files and VFSRS proactive case research record, made those outside this power house feel isolated. One can see the friction in this document to ASIO in which AFSRS President Fred Stone describes his lack of trust in the Victorian group and that they were associated with a Sydney UFO Group that was controlled by people with “Pink” tendencies.

SEE:

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ShowImage.asp?B=8194228&S=17&T=P

National Archives of Australia: A6122, 2004/00053526, digital image p17

2. By 1963 the South Australian group was finished, this lead to a push from Sydney, in which by taking control of the state groups magazine, UFOIC hoped that the authority would shift too their sphere.

So on the 23 February 1967, UFOIC V/Pres Mr. Harry O’Brian for copyright on the states groups magazine “Australian Flying Saucer Review”. This application was made without the knowledge of the other groups, when discovered the manoeuvre ‘backfired’ totally damaged the previously semi harmonious state of collaboration.

SEE:

National Archives of Australia: A1336/1, 68837, digital image p12

Made an application National Archives of Australia: A1336/1, 68837, digital image p16

Victoria and Queensland protested and the application failed, however, that was the end and VFSRS closed the door on Sydney - the fracture was complete.

UFOIC DIES

Over time UFOIC eventually collapses under Mr Fred Phillips and Bill Moser.

UFOIC last newsletter is sent out for Feb 1977., after that it was over and the group died.

See the National Library of Australia

UFOIC BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS

In recent time some lest honest people have tried to claim that UFOIC still exist and they control it, however this is a pure lie. Take this recent example a Mr Bill Chalker in a unprofessional dust up with excelent New South Wales Ufologist (See Letter Below) such as Bryan Dickeson, Moira McGhee and Paul Sowiak-Rudej.

This Mr Chalker states:

"I have been associated with UFO Research (NSW) since 1977 when I helped form it from the UFO Investigation Centre (UFOIC). "

And this:

"As of November, 1991, my UFO Research (NSW) group (formerly known as UFOIC), will be known as the UFO Investigation Centre (UFOIC), "

So you see this person Mr Chalker in 1991 reused a name that was not his in the first place as it had finished operations back in 1977.

So when some idiot tries and tells you UFOIC has been in continuous operations from 1957 to today, its a lie told by a fool.

Read the real 1991 caustic and unprofessional Chalker letter in full:

"UFO Research New South Wales Stole my name."

Dec 8 1991

Please understand that I have nothing what so ever to do with the new UFO Research (NSW) I did not expect this new group, which had its inargural meeting in November, 1991, to take my group name!

Bill Chalker


I have been associated with UFO Research (NSW) since 1977 when I helped form it from the UFO Investigation Centre (UFOIC). During the latter part of the 1980s & up to now I have kept it going as its director on an intentionally low profile and informal networking basis, mainly because of the lack of keen workers and my distaste for UFO group politics.

During that time I have preferred to network my group and my own research findings through other wider networking facilities such as the Australian Centre for UFO Studies (ACUFOS) and UFORA, rather than publish my own newsletter.

I found this to be a good working arrangement and a great deal of useful information was circulated this way.

Unfortunately UFO politics have taken a rather negative turn lately with a new style of ACUFOS which seems to prefer to promote the claims of Bieleck, Lear, Cooper etc. I have made my views clear to the current ACUFOS management (Martin Gottschall) and have completely dissociated myself from its activities.

Perhaps related to this, the new ACUFOS set about trying to get a UFO group (of its persausion) going in New South Wales (NSW). Although I do not agree with much of what the new ACUFOS and UFO Research (Queensland) are doing, this is a democracy and new breakthroughs are possible through all sorts of avenues, no matter how bizarre. So I was not concerned about a new group in NSW - plenty of room for that.

However I did not expect this new group, which had its inargural meeting in November, 1991, to take my group name! This is what they have done and they have registered it as a business name, something I found unnecessary to do since 1977! This leaves me with not much room to move re group names. A name change has been forced on my informal NSW network group.

This message is designed to alert you to these confusing and rather disappointing developments. As of November, 1991, my UFO Research (NSW) group (formerly known as UFOIC), will be known as the UFO Investigation Centre (UFOIC), the ORIGINAL UFO RESEARCH (NSW).

Please understand that I have nothing what so ever to do with the new UFO Research (NSW).

My UFOR(NSW) activities span 1977 to 1991 and my UFOIC involvement goes back to 1969. UFOIC itself goes back to 1955, when it was reformed from theoriginal Australian group AFSB then run by Edgar Jarrold.

Some of the principles of the NEW UFO Research (NSW) group are Bryan Dickeson, Moira McGhee and Paul Sowiak-Rudej. I repeat I have no connect with this group and they have no connection with my UFOR(NSW) (1977-91) activities, other than brief and limited involvement from some of their members. They did not maintain any involvement since the early 80s.

I should point out that my group has close ties with the national network UFORA.

I can be contacted via this folder, through my box address:
P.O. Box W42, West Pennant Hills, NSW, 2125, AUSTRALIA

Regards from Bill Chalker.